Date: December 11, 2025 at 8:00am Pacific Time / 11:00am Eastern Time
Hosted by: AI BTC X handle (Cedar behind the handle) and Whoadbuddy
Duration: ~1 hr 15 minutes
Recording: https://x.com/i/spaces/1MYGNlqqMyyxw?s=20
1. Agenda Overview
- Overview & Journey of AI BTC Working Group
- Call for Builders to Join AI BTC WG to collaborate & share
- Builder/Project Intros to the AI BTC Working Group
- AI Analysis Intelligence from Bounty Using Grok
- Technical Infrastructure Discussions
2. Key Meeting Highlights
Overview & Journey of AI BTC Working Group
- Running for over a year at the intersection of AI and Bitcoin.
- Built aibtc.com and tested micro-task coordination experiments.
- Latest micro-task involved recruiting people for community calls, paying out in Bitcoin via AI agents evaluation of work quality.
- Learning from attempted users who are gaming the system and flagging bad actors.
- Today’s call returning to roots as a working group supporting developers.
Call for Builders to Join AI BTC WG to collaborate & share
- Open format for developers building at AI and Bitcoin intersection.
- Focus areas include X402 micropayments, AI DAOs, and micro/nanopayment protocol or projects.
- Investors, users, and potential recruits often in the audience.
Builder/Project Intros to the AI BTC Working Group
- Engrave Protocol:
- Started from Solana x402 hackathon
- Building Bitcoin services layer with Mempool API integration
- Exploring Soul Protocol collaboration for BTC synthetic assets on Solana
- Challenge: Finding product market fit beyond proof of concept
- Inviting AI to collaborate in their upcoming X space
- Kwame’s ERC-8001 (EIP author) Standard but bringing them to Stacks:
- Deployed first testnet contract rendition
- Whoabuddy wanted to see if Grok 4.1 can create the contract, let to a specification that might be helpful to keep developing Kwame’s idea
- Developer question: How to perform “commit-reveal” on Stacks (a project sOrdinals should have used this)
- Goal: Cross-chain value transfer from ETH to Stacks, and then Stacks back without us having to be involved except for “intent”
- Centralized intermediary probably needed initially listening for events - no intent can be executed, just listening
- Whoabuddy plans to keep working with Kwame offline to advance this cross-chain coordination further
- Johnny DL recommendations for AI projects at the interaction of AI agents <> micropayments:
- TokenOS.ai - no code AI agent builder with x402 payments
- Agent marketplace with all major models (Grok 4.1, Claude, etc.)
- In the conversation, Engrave Protocol recommended “X402 Jobs” building exact microtask marketplace concept
AI Analysis Intelligence from Bounty Using Grok
- Ran Grok analysis of 220 submissions surfaced 2 top trends:
- X402 / micropayments – most active and visible category (matches a16z “crypto crossovers” thesis).
- Decentralized compute – fast-emerging area for running agents, models, and workloads.
- Publius shared How this Grok intelligence is useful:
- Product focus: Prioritize features/integrations around X402 and decentralized compute (agent runners, pay-per-call APIs, tooling).
- Community focus: Aim future AI BTC calls, topics, and bounties at X402 and decentralized compute builders.
- Partnerships: Use the Grok-ranked builders list to find collaborators, integrations, and co-marketing opportunities.
- Narrative / fundraising: Align your story with validated macro trends (X402 + decentralized compute) backed by both Grok data and a16z research.
- Better experiments: Design new microtasks to gather deeper data on pain points and needs in these two areas, feeding back into roadmap and community programming.
Technical Infrastructure Discussions
- Brief discussion on X402 censorship resistance:
- concern raised about whether governments could stop or censor X402 payments; response clarified that while optional facilitators exist, developers can self-host X402 payment infrastructure, making it difficult to shut down or censor at the protocol level.
- Rafa’s Clarity Library Iterations:
- Bitcoin to sBTC swap in one block under $100
- Self-wrapping runes into multisig with user signature control - only possible to bridge back to L1 with user’s signature
- Improved UX with transaction status modeling
- Zeroxyz.btc’s ZeroAuthorityDAO Integration Plans:
- TripnMonkey’s Protocol vs App Mindset:
- Machine-to-machine age requires “protocol thinking”: Trip emphasized that in an AI + agents world, most interactions will be machine-to-machine, so systems must be designed to be discoverable and composable by other machines, not just humans clicking UI.
- Design protocols that others build apps on top of: He encouraged builders to think more like the designers of SMTP or TCP/IP: define open, reusable interaction patterns and data formats that many different apps and agents can plug into, instead of tightly coupled single-use flows.
- Different from traditional self-contained app approach: Traditional “one app, one silo” thinking limits interoperability and reuse; Trip argued that if you instead treat your work as a protocol layer, you enable a broader ecosystem of agents, services, and frontends to build on and extend what you’ve created.
- Whoabuddy summarized these key areas to watch:
- Agents paying for “resources” (X402, StacksPay (Github), and smart contracts as payment rails)
- Agents agreeing on and finishing cross-chain work (e.g., ERC‑8001 style intents)
- Agent registered identity (registries, attestations, and contract-based identity)
- AI agents interacting with smart contracts on Stacks for voting and on‑chain tasks
- How to actually run agents: decentralized compute, verifying models, and reliable inference backends
Key Speakers Insights
Cedar - Community lens: Invites builders to join the weekly AI BTC Working Group calls and Discord - call as an open, recurring hub for AI+BTC builders community, and focuses on turning “random Twitter connections” into an actual working community that unblocks each other’s projects.
Johnny DL - Discovery lens: Shows how non-devs can add leverage by finding and connecting high-signal tools (TokenOS, X402 Jobs), expanding everyone’s surface area of what’s possible.
Publius - Strategy lens: Treats Grok + microtasks as a way to probe the market: which ideas attract real work, where fraud shows up, and which trends (X402, decentralized compute) deserve deeper investment.
Engrave Protocol - Product-fit lens: Illustrates the jump from cool infra (mempool APIs) to “who really needs this?” in BTCFi and agent use cases, and the danger of over-optimizing for big-name partnerships.
Kwame - Cross-chain lens: Pushes the group to think rigorously about how intents move across chains, and what actually lives on-chain vs off-chain when agents coordinate work.
Rafa - UX + bridge lens: Demonstrates that bridging and asset wrapping are UX problems as much as security problems—latency, clarity of state, and user control can be differentiators, not afterthoughts.
Zeroxyz.btc - Protocol-stack lens: Frames agent-native apps as a stack (identity, payments, messaging), nudging others to design with composable layers instead of one-off integrations.
TripnMonkey - Architecture lens: Challenges builders to think “protocol-first” so their work becomes infrastructure other agents and devs can remix, not just another isolated app.
Whoabuddy - Systems lens: Connects the dots into a map: where agents get paid, how they agree on work (especially cross-chain), how they’re identified, and how they’re actually run-so new ideas can slot into a bigger picture.
Things to Celebrate
- Growing energy around AI + Bitcoin, with builders, community members, and non-devs all contributing.
- Call surfaced lots of concrete projects, tools, and ideas people can explore or plug into right away.
- AI BTC Working Group is solidifying as a recurring place to meet, learn, and collaborate across the ecosystem. Keep joining!
- Successful analysis of outreach 220 submissions using Grok.
Action Items / Next Steps
| Topic | Responsible | Next Step | Timeline |
|---|---|---|---|
| AI BTC Community Engagement | Cedar | Continue weekly calls and Discord engagement | Ongoing |
Resources & References
- AI BTC project Repo: GitHub
- AI BTC Working Group thread: GitHub Discussions
- Whoabuddy’s agent-coordination Repo: https://github.com/whoabuddy/agent-coordination
- Kwame’s ERC-8001 SIP: https://github.com/stacksgov/sips/pull/246
- ERC-8001 (under review) Agent Coordination Framework - Minimal, single-chain, multi-party agent coordination using EIP-712 attestations: https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-8001
- ERC-8004 (under review) Trustless Agents - Discover agents and establish trust through reputation and validation : https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-8004
- x402 SDK for Stacks by Tony: https://x.com/toony1908/status/1996417973842858238?s=20
Call to Action
- Join the AI BTC Working Group: on AI BTC Discord for ongoing discussions and collaboration. Participate in weekly Thursday calls at 8AM Pacific Time / 11AM Eastern Time.
- Next Tuesday 16th Dec is at 9:30am PT / 12.30pm ET - link to X space
- Builders: Explore and experiment with X402-based micropayments and decentralized / distributed compute for running agents and services.
- Developers: Contribute to emerging AI+BTC standards on Stacks (e.g., intents, payments, identity) and help improve agent interoperability and coordination across chains.